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[Contest 6] Lumber Against Stealer


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#21 Sieghart93

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 09:05 AM

yea i mean about the 1st 1.... so. so... anything before 25 or before lt stealer spawn is fine?



#22 Koldx

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 11:02 AM

Name: Koldx

Mode: Nightmare, No Air , No Invis

 

I chose this lumbering technique as i was recently introduced to it only and i saw good results coming from it. It was fast, efficient and easy to memorise for me xD. This lumbering technique also matches this base as it requires a large amount of space and W-61 Bravo is a very huge base. This lumbering technique is good to use and it is fast just that you have to make sure your alchemist has enough mana or you could get the hero or you have a custom hero :( . You can get a least 7-8 repair factories on one mill which makes it very fast as i am a impatient person :P.

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#23 E.K.2.

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 06:50 AM

Name: E.K.2.
Mode: Nightmare, Air, Invis
Base: The Scientist Lab
 
<Re-Uploaded and Updated!>
I choose this base and after 10 hours of playing, I finished three lumber factory level 7. :) (Be Lucky!)
Thanks for secret barrel!
 
Strategy: I found 2 easter eggs on map. These easter eggs giving some lumber:), and I'm construct gold mine as faster.
Gold mine's gold is converted lumber, so achieve faster lumber factory upgrade.

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Lt stealer are coming my base:(

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Lt stealer's Time, first -wps.

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Killed 2 Lt stealer, second -wps. this time also upgrading some lumber factory:)

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In 25:00, last -wps. great:)


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#24 Waffle(est)

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 06:07 PM

@nevo

I would be reallllllllllllllllllly curious as to what all these "different considerations" mean..

 

got to love it when the contest is fair but nobody actually knows how the grades are given :D :P


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#25 jampre02

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 09:29 PM

Name: jampre02

Area: W61

Mode: Impossible, No air, With Invisible

Solo player the rest are computers

 

Set up would have been more efficient if i did 5 mills at a time but since I'm more concern on maximising the alchemist mana i did 6 instead.

My interpretation of the rules that 25-30min means i can post wps screenshot within those time frame, but if it was meant to be a few sec after LT pops up then its ust 4wps since all were upgrading almost simultaneously.  

 

Please do comment if this is valid or not so i can try again. Though i need to rest my wrist lol

 

 

 

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#26 jampre02

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 03:57 AM

Made New entry just in case the first one is not valid

 

Name: jampre02

Area: W61

Mode: Impossible, No air, With Invisible

Solo player the rest are computers

 

Set up would have been more efficient if i did 5 mills at a time but since I'm more concern on maximising the alchemist mana i did 6 instead.

 

Lt spawned

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WPS 28min mark

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WPS 25min mark

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PS. I leave it to the the judges discretion for entry validity. 
Thanks



#27 R-Pootis

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 03:58 AM

As i remember elfs, from normal WC3: Chances of success? None. It's for me. I'll try, but i know i'll lost :D



#28 jampre02

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 04:16 AM

@nevo may i suggest that we use just one version of 6.45 the official one preferably. I know for a fact there is a hacked/with cheat version but then again how can we monitor that lol



#29 SoulSurvivor

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 11:36 PM

I was unawares such things like this existed already, but i suppose its impossible to stop...  whats the question on validity?

I think there's confusion on team-basing/secret barrels and i dunno exactly what they'll decide he says based on the entries...

So you might as well try whatever tactics you can to get the highest -WPS.  And don't play hacked maps :angry:


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#30 Sieghart93

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 12:06 AM

finally found where is the media file....  oo well..

IGN : sieghart93
Modes; Nightmare + air + invi
Base : Our dear old *Summer Cottage* (please dont say its lame @ i dunno anywhere else to play with air.. )

Step 1: Keep retry until i got the female Survivor....
Step 2: Make a few arrow towers at the middle to secure the precious kill (woods)
Step 3: Claim security rooms and move everything to the spawn point.....
             Set the Divine human and the Divine Dog on left and right @
Step 4: like all others.. making lags on the game( stacking creeps on door )

well there goes like this....  is this allowed?? i forgotten to open the board until 25 minit..

The starting image might not match since i forgotten which 1 is the correct 1 .... remaked a few time due to the air boss...
seriously.. how did the ppl survived it w/o any air turrets  / offensive hero / towers

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Edited by Sieghart93, 16 August 2014 - 11:52 AM.

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#31 Cidiaus

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 12:51 AM

Name: Cidiaus
 
Base: A-11
 
Modes: Nightmare, Air, Invisible Units,  with Extra Comp Units*

 

 
Loaded the game with extra players, playing on a keyboard that is not my standard, so I am a bit slower and Not playing on my gaming comp...so made things annoying..so but here it is... and I found a secret barrel and this time  I used a 4 mill lumber setup lumber strat as this can allow me to place 4 down helps me to get 4 mills before 30ish time however it is very intensive and intimate process..you have to stay consistent in the mist of fighting air bosses...which is hard to do...or any boss for that matter...with those extra comp players created alot of AIR units...HOLY SMOKES.. I forced myself to lumber continuiously in the midst of a boss in my base...it really helps after trying like 25 times.

 

 

 

 

Updates: Played a game with slightly better results This time I found a lightening fist and I sold at the 38th minute mark that helped me along......This submission is all skill with crappy laptop and a keyboard that sucks to no avail..

 

 

8/20/2014...Did it again with better results

 

Stealer:

 

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25 minutes

 

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#32 Sieghart93

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:31 AM

do ya really have to load game ~.~



#33 diggymo_o

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 11:01 AM

ID : diggymo_o
Mode : Nightmare, Invisible, Air

Base: The Scientist Lab

 

Updated

 

I used  Alchemist hero

 

Find the hidden items sold. (key, books, potion)
Lumber was the upgrade to the tree. 
Built the tree continues.
done.
 
Many of the gameplay, was added to the highest wps.
 
I used a translator.

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Edited by diggymo_o, 24 August 2014 - 09:14 AM.

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#34 Waffle(est)

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 02:27 PM

@nevo may i suggest that we use just one version of 6.45 the official one preferably. I know for a fact there is a hacked/with cheat version but then again how can we monitor that lol

as long as were playing warcraft hacking the map is trivial 5 minute task, any map, 'protection' does not help against this.

 

there is no use in evading a version just because somebody has hacked it..
it takes 5 minutes to do this... so then every single ver would prolly be invalid..



#35 Sieghart93

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 06:25 PM

well.. unlesss u made it such that only a game with certain players  / hostbot is valid?
although that is kinda time restricted



#36 SoulSurvivor

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:19 PM

I think what he's saying is what's been said many times before, If warcraft III can read the file then it can always be deprotected

by those that know how.  I'm told if your fluent in Jass you can do anything...    Anything.

 

Its just my personal opinion; but if you have to cheat when you play this game just to win its not really that fun anyways...

It's only fun if you have the skills to beat it without cheating, which is most certainly possible using many different strategies.

Then you have "skills" and are called "Pro", not being "cheap" and called "map-hacker"

 

Its only fun if its challenging, and you get "skills".  Not "whosyourdaddy" and just walk around with a hero. 



#37 Sieghart93

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:14 AM

but as in i mean @ if u have a few *certified* players as witness (at least 1 ) to play that certain game.. wont it be most likely 0 chance of hacking?
Since it could be very obvious? and about the anti hack system on some others maps... they are just anti mh?


Edited by Sieghart93, 18 August 2014 - 12:15 AM.


#38 Nevo

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:16 AM

but as in i mean @ if u have a few *certified* players as witness (at least 1 ) to play that certain game.. wont it be most likely 0 chance of hacking?

 

No because there are ways to cheat without other people being possibly aware of what's actually happening.



#39 Sieghart93

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 05:00 AM

wat about the anti map hack system the others use in their map @?  its going to be 0 help for that ~?



#40 jampre02

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 07:20 AM

Hmm well i thought of a way that could help in game validity Is aside from screenshots send the actual replay for possible cross reference. Then you'd know who's cheating or not. But watching the replay will be tedious for the judging committee just until we figure out a better way to deal with it. 

Third party applications including map hack won't be much of help, its the hacked/cracked maps that are of concern.

 

Again just some of my thoughts and opinion. Hope it made sense.






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