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[12th Archivist]

I've been trying this base a few times on normal mode, but every time, Worm or Arthas come and murdalize everything. I want to get better at the game so I can play with you guys, but I'm honestly at a loss on how to improve my strategy. To anyone who's willing to watch my most recent game replay, could you offer some tips on what I'm doing wrong and how I can get better at the game?

 

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[AzZ]

First off, you should play a more up to date version. These would be 6.45p or 6.46p(beta)

The first problem that I see on your tatic is that you dont make lvl7 mills.

That's you main problem. thats why you dont have better walls/armor.

You should read these 2 tutorials

http://fortress-surv...advanced-guide/

http://fortress-surv...e-me-wood-noob/, and then try again. I am almost sure that when you make the lvl7 mills your problem will be solved.

Btw, a lvl7 mill is done with a repair factory or a repair bot(they dont need to be fully build) in the center and 8 lvl5 mills around it.

You also need to make the upgrade of books on the tap 'Others' on the command center, and then build bookshelfs. with the book you must buy upgrades to enhance your defence(walls, repair bots and aura statues)

[12th Archivist]

Ah, I'll try that. I was under the impression that the L7s weren't really worth it, but it sounds like they are.

[Waffle(est)]

Ah, I'll try that. I was under the impression that the L7s weren't really worth it, but it sounds like they are.

lvl7 is the most OP income ever conceived.

last time i checked it gives u 30% bonus income over the component lvl4 mills and takes 50% less space (also more hp so its not as likely to get nuked by air etc)

 

it is so op that there is a hard cap of 3 per player.

lvl6 is the useless crap. (cant powerbuild, takes tons of room, 20% bonus over lvl4-s but bad powerbuild capabilities make the net result like -70%, only useful if u cant get an alchemist at all)

[12th Archivist]

Wow! 6.45 makes the game way easier despite the boss buff. Actually a little too easy... That was a good suggestion, AzZ! Thanks!

 

I've ran a few games where I focus on getting 3 lvl7s as soon as possible in some, and just mass dozens of lvl5s without ever turning them into lvl7s in others. Both cases seem pretty evenly productive, but my build efficiency is kinda piss-poor.

 

Maybe if I was purely lumbering and could get the lvl7s earlier, they would be the clear victor. But as-is, I don't get lvl7s fast enough for it to make a huge difference. (My first usually comes around 32 minutes, my second at 22, and my third at 14, btw.)

 

Thanks for the comments! I'm always looking to improve my game!

[Waffle(est)]

a) use -wps command to get ur actual productioin (rather than feel)
measure at preset times..*

c) note that upgrading to lvl7 pauses income for a few seconds (while it upgrades) it will take a little time to make up for it (between 1 and 2 minutes id estimate)

 

also it is important to produce as many raw mills as u can first and foremost, if u do lvl7-s but your worker is idle for some time you can end up undoing any benefit. 

so keep your worker buzy at all times..
place mills if u got spare time..
combine mills if u still have spare time

in roughly that exact order.

 

some games ive had like 50 unplaced mills at moments and still owned (tho thats was a moment where i had to destroy some factories to makeroom for mills so it kind of compensated)

 

 

*how to prove a random claim:

def prove_claim(claim):

  from random import pick

  samples= []

  while(unfavorable(samples)):

    # the moment the samples lean in our favor we stop the experiment

    samples.append(pick("yes","no"))

  return proof(claim, samples) 

 

[AzZ]

If you play in the battle.net, join the skype group and try playing some games with the ppl there.

That way you will be able to compare your game style with others, and improve a lot.

Based on what I saw on from your replay, I assume that you finish the lvl7 mills so late is because you do multiple towers.

Not doing them and focussing your attack on the hero, will save you a lot of time for the mills.

Finishing all the 3 before 25 minute mark, is a good time.