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Poll: to end or not (27 member(s) have cast votes)

If we could end war should we?

  1. Yes (18 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. No (3 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  3. I don't care (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  4. Remove this topic (4 votes [14.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.81%

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#21 Waffle

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:17 AM

few thoughts
  • War does not create intrinsic value.
  • War itself does not have value.
  • War has caused great transfers of resources that already existed.
  • Compound thought:
    • there is money in solving problems.
    • there are not enough problems to go around.
    • Once problems are created they can be solved for profit.
    • War is excellent at creating a LOT OF PROBLEMS.
  • Companies tasked with rebuilding are often affiliated with the winning countries government.
  • The winner (Conqueror) often gains significant natural resources from wars fought to *protect human rights*.
  • There are many countries with severe human rights issues yet only countries with vast resources merit invasion.
  • Wars necessitate the transfer of resources to defense contractors.
  • Defense contractors are well funded and usually finance the election campaign of the ruling party.
  • Election spending is in alarming correlation to poll results.
  • War advances science. (atom bomb for example)
  • War restrains science. (In Nazi Germany for instance only the fields that were deemed relevant to winning the war were funded, often others were cut off. && Think of the crusades no scientific advancement but those who didn't think the world was flat.. ..)
  • War DESTROYS resources.
  • War causes countless tragedies.
  • War is a pretext for hostile occupation.
  • All hostile occupations try to show themselves as saviors of the local population.
  • Hostile occupations seek to control the area.
  • An area is easier to control when the population is divided and there is a lot of infighting.( think USSR or the 3-rd reich recruiting people to spy on their own family and friends. and then think of the 2 allied spies (memory serves they were british...?) who got arrested in Iraq for shooting at civilians while disguised as locals and were then broken out by NATO tanks! ) There're worse things in the world but i wanted to point out that there is no good side in war. no matter what anyone says.

Edited by Waffle, 26 March 2013 - 04:18 AM.


#22 Tyrande.PH

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:37 AM

In the war

both sides are victim

they both have casualty

they both want to win

Unless there is a way to finish things

with both sides winning? is it PEACE?

I think no.. we are at peace atm

but there is still a Competition..

in money in territory in everything..

but because of this competition

individual people brings grudge upon others.

ended up as war.

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If there is a wrong grammar bear with it :)

English isnt my mother langauge


Edited by Tyrande.PH, 21 April 2013 - 11:38 AM.


#23 ReD

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:43 AM

Anti War?



#24 Darkside007

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 04:32 PM

War is bad. The alternatives are worse.



#25 Nythra

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 11:19 PM

war exists because of greed, there's never really any other reason, less we can stop being greedy, we will always have wars.


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#26 Darkside007

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:09 AM

war exists because of greed, there's never really any other reason, less we can stop being greedy, we will always have wars.

What's this "We" nonsense? Greed doesn't start wars, greed starts business. Powerlust starts wars.



#27 That_Girl

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:59 PM

Honestly i'd start a war just because it will be fun to kill several people O.o Then dieing my self haha >.<



#28 MichaelwP

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:15 PM

<EXPLODES KILLING ALL PLAYERS IN THE TOPIC>



#29 Nythra

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:18 PM

What's this "We" nonsense? Greed doesn't start wars, greed starts business. Powerlust starts wars.

yeah... because wanting more and more of something isnt greed at all... power hungry people are greedy people too. Why does greed have to refer only to money?

 

what do you mean "we" nonsense? if "we" don't want to fight, we could just not fight, it sounds sappy but its actually true, it everyone just said "fuck no im not going to war" there wouldn't be any wars. Sadly theres always weak willed, ignorant or indoctrinated people ready to fight for shitty reasons. How many wars would be fought if the people who wanted them were on the frontlines? some would but the vast majority would be avoided and they would end fast anyway.



#30 Darkside007

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 04:21 AM

yeah... because wanting more and more of something isnt greed at all... power hungry people are greedy people too. Why does greed have to refer only to money?

 

what do you mean "we" nonsense? if "we" don't want to fight, we could just not fight, it sounds sappy but its actually true, it everyone just said "fuck no im not going to war" there wouldn't be any wars. Sadly theres always weak willed, ignorant or indoctrinated people ready to fight for shitty reasons. How many wars would be fought if the people who wanted them were on the frontlines? some would but the vast majority would be avoided and they would end fast anyway.

The first person to say "Fuck no I'm not going to war." is the first person who loses all his rights and becomes a slave to invaders. Therein lies the problem.



#31 Nythra

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:18 PM

The first person to say "Fuck no I'm not going to war." is the first person who loses all his rights and becomes a slave to invaders. Therein lies the problem.

The problem is that someone is always willing to fight for someone else's ideal. Hence why invaders exist in the first place, indoctrination, ignorance and stupidity. 






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