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#1 zodlex

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 09:37 AM

A  couple of friends and i play fortress survival together, we're using version 6.30. Because we don't consistently win we play Easy/Noair/Noinvis. We can get up to Trojan, but we cannot kill him. After he reaches 20k health he just stops taking damage. Using 1 Tinker, 1 Marine, 1 Rocketeer. (No ranks beyond that)

 

Any suggestions?

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Need base suggestions as well



#2 trannguyen86

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:11 PM

3 of you should base in the right-upon of the map, then you build a lot of centry posts and upgrade it to call paratrooper.

like i did in the replay.

http://www.mediafire...nmairvsinvi.w3g

 

and the marine has laser skill (upgrade this skill at library), so you should use that skill before trojan reach 20% its blood.

 

this is where you should build: http://www.mediafire...asiest_mode.w3g

 

all replay in version 1.26a.



#3 Waffle(est)

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 01:09 PM

Trojan is a little ... misbalanced atm.. 

He is changed in the next patch to be more of a threat (higher dps for a true threatening survival experience) but easier to kill (nerfed evasion and removed avatar )



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 10:20 PM

hmm, sounds like you guys were using staffs/heros only. You need assasin towers those pretty much Rape bosses.also if you got problem with his Evasion I don't know if this works on him tho, because he had nearly permament avatar wich gives him magic immune, Use wizards. they should make him easier to kill :P hope i helped.



#5 zodlex

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 05:09 AM

We always use towers. Never thought about wizards, thank you.

 

Tried sentries for the first time. Very good. Thank you.

 

Every time he falls to around 10k and then due to magic immunity just gets back up, do you have to kill him before he's magic immune?



#6 Zer0o

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:36 AM

Nah, you dont have to kill him before he casts avatar but it helps alot since his HP will drop pretty fast due to evasion not working when polymorphed. Also dont just use towers, recruit snipers and/or wizards like Jasie suggested. It's pretty difficult to kill the najort without polymorphing him because the timer will reach 0 in no time.. 5.40 will be different but Im not sure if it's gonna be easier or not O.o I guess we will find out once he releases. 



#7 King_Of_Deadxx

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 05:02 PM

LoL i Cant even get up to Trojan so i dont know how it feels to have this problum. I always get raped by Pheng.... -SAD PANDA-



#8 zodlex

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:56 PM

Is it possible to polymorph lock him so he cant use avatar under 20%?



#9 TheDwarfLard

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 08:26 PM

Both Trojan and Najort seem to break the polymorph when they reach 20% hp, even if you have wizards spamming the spell.


Edited by TheDwarfLard, 26 June 2013 - 09:49 AM.


#10 Waffle(est)

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:38 PM

6.40 bosses will be easier to kill

 but will have better DPS for balance.

if you lose a survival game it should be cuz u get raped by the huge red dude with horns... not cuz some silly timer runs out...



#11 trannguyen86

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:48 PM

http://www.mediafire...wk/veryeasy.w3g tutorial for very easy.



#12 zodlex

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:37 AM

Thanks for the advice all, will be playing a few rounds tomorrow with these things taken into account



#13 Hebidoshi

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:27 PM

hrmmm, glad I'm not the only one having this problem. Besides when I had assassin towers (up'd all the way) they would all miss and the timer just ran out....



#14 zodlex

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:55 AM

Managed to down Trojan (solo) got Najort down most the way but i wasnt paying much attention and my walls fell (was repair keying the heck outta them) 



#15 Jem

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 04:37 AM

Uhhh, u can defeat Trojan/Najort/Tyrant with 12 players in nm air invi, 11 marine 1 alchemist (lumberer).....

Solo in this version is "impossible"

 

 

Ion Cannon = almost 25% of Trojan's HP. + Elemental Stone = 2 Ion Cannons

Nevo lied, Elemental Stone didn't even exist.

Scrap Metal is better than Repair Key, buying tooooo much Repair Keys are imbalanced, but Scrap Metal isn't that "IMBA".


Edited by rarigate, 28 June 2013 - 10:01 PM.


#16 Waffle(est)

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:05 PM

Elemental stone exists in 6.40 will be released in a few days.